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 ====1645==== ====1645====
 +  *February: Skirmish at Lancaut
   *June: Besieged at Berkeley Castle   *June: Besieged at Berkeley Castle
   *September: Besieged at Berkeley Castle   *September: Besieged at Berkeley Castle
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 =====Notes===== =====Notes=====
  
-===Contemporary Letters=== 
- 
-==Wintour to Prince Rupert== 
- 
-'May it please your highness 
-The letters I sent you uppon our ill success at Lancaute,​went by the way of Bristol,and soe have added to my misfortune in that your highnes wil be the longer without knoledge of the truth of what passed and my self in the meane time shal remayne subject (the common condicion of those that are imployed) to hard censure uppon misinformation of those that wish me not well. 
-By the importunity of this bearer whose hast wil not permitt me to write much,I shal give your highness this briefe account. 
-That for the forces you were pleased to send with me from oxford noe quarter would be afforded in this towne or hundred for a greate while not withstanding I sent worde with them that allowance should be made to the country for it out of the contribution by which meanes the foote were al disbanded before I came from Woster and most of the hors. 
-for the hors and Dragoones sent with me by Prince Maurice I mayntayned them a month without succour ​  ​which ​ (prictheles ​ unclear) ​ were promised within 4 days out of Herefordshire in despight of al that Massy and that country could doe agaynst us and had not their mutinous carradge enforced theyr more sudden departure from my garrison,​then was necessary or intended,I should not doubted to have at worst returned them safe back but they would gon at any hazard,and the way of Lancaut was thought the most secure;​besides that in the passadge it gayned the pass which the foote appoynted by Sir Thomas Lunsford to be on the other side might have secured to the very greate advantage of his Majesties service,but those foote were not there,and the others insteade of doinge theyr duty did plunder,​drinke,​and run away by meanes whereof besides other losses happened the drowning of Coll. Power which greeves me more then all.he reconcyled the mutinyes at my house and to prevent any by the way accompanied us himself,​nothinge can be sayd to iy but that his hower had comme,for could he not have swum (as he was the best of ingland) he had bin saved as many others were. 
-We are in greate expectation of the result at Abergany where Genl. Gerard Sir Thomas Lunsford and the commissioners of these countyes meet. 
-I shall apply my best endeavors to prosecute as much as in me lyes what they shal thinke best. 
-My house remaynes in the same condicion it did,but longe it cannot if force looke not into that cursed country.I beseech your highness to take the same into consideration soe farr as weyghinge of what use the place may be with the diversion of forces to releeve it (which happily I can not be spared from greater services of his Majesty) whither it will not be for the best to afforde meanes to remoove the ordinance armes ammunition and soldiers that are in it before it be too late to doe it.this I move noe otherwise then as offeringe all my interest for what that be most for the service of his Majesty.I am not without feare of this place for the country rise sometimes in greate numbers and chase our hors from theyr quarters,​they have greate store of armes and talke of the same associations as in other partes.I wil omitt neyther paynes nor hazard to prevent it and this night hope to meete Sir Thomas Lunsford whose direction I shall follow and soe prayinge for the good success of your highness in your present action.Ibeseech you retayne me in your good opinion and let me not (which is agaynst ​ justice as well as your own name) be condemned til I be heard,I remayne your highness most obedient servant 
-John Wintour 
- 
-Chepstow 28 Feb.(1644/​5) 
- 
-==Glocestershire fatling== 
- 
-Tom Veel, the Glocestershire fatling I lately told you of, that winced and spurn'​d so at Colonell Masseys summons, is very well rewarded for it; being put beside his Governorship of Berkly Castle by Rupert, and one Poore an Irish creature succeeded him. But is not this poore doings (my masters) you that hold Townes and Castles for his Majesty? Have ye any English heart about ye, and can ye  heare this with patience? Ye see what ye must come to after all your good service; even be slaves to the ambition of a German Boy, and the avarice of Irish rebells. Had it not been better for Tom Veel, having an estate about Berkly Castle, to have made a Composition for his estate upon the Surrender, then to hold out, as he did, and lose both the place and estate for his labour ? Come yeeld, and be wise, if not for conscience, yet for your own sakes; Ye see else what ye must come to. 
  
  
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 Veale was replaced by Richard Power as Governor of Berkeley Castle in September/​October 1644. Veale was replaced by Richard Power as Governor of Berkeley Castle in September/​October 1644.
 ====Colonel Richard Power==== ====Colonel Richard Power====
-Or Poore, from Ireland.+Or Poore, from Ireland, succeeded Veale as Governor and Colonle but was killed at Lancaut skirmish in February 1645 and buried at Chepstow.
  
-====Officer ​List====+====Officer ​Lists==== 
 +From original research by Victor Judge aka BCW user '​1642'​
  
 ==Under Veale=== ==Under Veale===
  
-Colonel ​                        ​Thomas Veale +  *Colonel Thomas Veale 
-Lieutenant Colonel +  *Sargeant Major Thomas Veale
-Sargeant Major           ​Thomas Veale       ​+
  
-Captain ​                        ​Francis Bennett ​    +  *Captain Francis Bennett ​    
-Captain ​                                ​Bridgeman ​    ​ +  *Captain Bridgeman  
-Captain ​                        ​Thomas Hicks        +  *Captain Thomas Hicks        
-Captain ​                                  ​Martin +  *Captain Martin 
-Captain ​                                 Sandys +  *Captain Sandys 
-Captain ​                        ​Thomas Smyth      +  *Captain Thomas Smyth      
-Captain ​                                        ​Smith        +  *Captain Smith        
-Captain ​                            ​Thoroughgood+  *Captain Thoroughgood
  
-Lieutenant ​                  ​John Clifford ​                      +  *Lieutenant John Clifford ​                      
-Lieutenant ​                  ​George Cowling ​    +  *Lieutenant George Cowling ​    
-Lieutenant ​                  ​William Wrench ​      +  *Lieutenant William Wrench  
- +     ​ 
-Ensign ​                        ​Thomas Pritchard  +  *Ensign Thomas Pritchard  
-Cornet ​                         Edward Creeche ​  +  *Cornet Edward Creeche ​  
  
 ==Under Power== ==Under Power==
-Colonel Richard Power                                                +  *Colonel Richard Power                                                
-Lieutenant Colonel ​             Richard Weston ​                      +  *Lieutenant Colonel Richard Weston ​                      
-Sargeant Major                         ​Slowley ​               ​+  *Sargeant Major Slowley ​               ​ 
 + 
 +=====Contemporary References===== 
 +From original research by Victor Judge aka BCW user '​1642'​ 
 + 
 +==Glocestershire fatling== 
 + 
 +Tom Veel, the Glocestershire fatling I lately told you of, that winced and spurn'​d so at Colonell Masseys summons, is very well rewarded for it; being put beside his Governorship of Berkly Castle by Rupert, and one Poore an Irish creature succeeded him. But is not this poore doings (my masters) you that hold Townes and Castles for his Majesty? Have ye any English heart about ye, and can ye  heare this with patience? Ye see what ye must come to after all your good service; even be slaves to the ambition of a German Boy, and the avarice of Irish rebells. Had it not been better for Tom Veel, having an estate about Berkly Castle, to have made a Composition for his estate upon the Surrender, then to hold out, as he did, and lose both the place and estate for his labour ? Come yeeld, and be wise, if not for conscience, yet for your own sakes; Ye see else what ye must come to. 
 + 
 +==Wintour to Prince Rupert== 
 + 
 +'May it please your highness 
 +The letters I sent you uppon our ill success at Lancaute, went by the way of Bristol, and soe have added to my misfortune in that your highnes wil be the longer without knoledge of the truth of what passed and my self in the meane time shal remayne subject (the common condicion of those that are imployed) to hard censure uppon misinformation of those that wish me not well. 
 +By the importunity of this bearer whose hast wil not permitt me to write much, I shal give your highness this briefe account. 
 +That for the forces you were pleased to send with me from oxford noe quarter would be afforded in this towne or hundred for a greate while not withstanding I sent worde with them that allowance should be made to the country for it out of the contribution by which meanes the foote were al disbanded before I came from Woster and most of the hors. 
 +for the hors and Dragoones sent with me by Prince Maurice I mayntayned them a month without succour ​  ​which ​ (prictheles ​ unclear) ​ were promised within 4 days out of Herefordshire in despight of al that Massy and that country could doe agaynst us and had not their mutinous carradge enforced theyr more sudden departure from my garrison,​then was necessary or intended,I should not doubted to have at worst returned them safe back but they would gon at any hazard,and the way of Lancaut was thought the most secure;​besides that in the passadge it gayned the pass which the foote appoynted by Sir Thomas Lunsford to be on the other side might have secured to the very greate advantage of his Majesties service,but those foote were not there,and the others insteade of doinge theyr duty did plunder, drinke, and run away by meanes whereof besides other losses happened the drowning of Coll. Power which greeves me more then all. he reconcyled the mutinyes at my house and to prevent any by the way accompanied us himself, nothinge can be sayd to iy but that his hower had comme, for could he not have swum (as he was the best of ingland) he had bin saved as many others were. 
 +We are in greate expectation of the result at Abergany where Genl. Gerard Sir Thomas Lunsford and the commissioners of these countyes meet. 
 +I shall apply my best endeavors to prosecute as much as in me lyes what they shal thinke best. 
 +My house remaynes in the same condicion it did, but longe it cannot if force looke not into that cursed country.I beseech your highness to take the same into consideration soe farr as weyghinge of what use the place may be with the diversion of forces to releeve it (which happily I can not be spared from greater services of his Majesty) whither it will not be for the best to afforde meanes to remoove the ordinance armes ammunition and soldiers that are in it before it be too late to doe it.this I move noe otherwise then as offeringe all my interest for what that be most for the service of his Majesty. I am not without feare of this place for the country rise sometimes in greate numbers and chase our hors from theyr quarters,​they have greate store of armes and talke of the same associations as in other partes. I wil omitt neyther paynes nor hazard to prevent it and this night hope to meete Sir Thomas Lunsford whose direction I shall follow and soe prayinge for the good success of your highness in your present action. I beseech you retayne me in your good opinion and let me not (which is agaynst ​ justice as well as your own name) be condemned til I be heard, I remayne your highness most obedient servant 
 +John Wintour 
 + 
 +Chepstow 28 Feb.(1644/​5)